Scully--- I understand why people are elated, but the cheering and dancing in the streets just reminds me of video footage of Muslims dancing in the streets post 9/11. I don't want to stoop to that level.
I agree. However, I did just put my flag out this morning in support of my country!
i just read in the police blog that an elder that went to my former cong was arrested for stalking.
i knew his family well and he is married to my cousin.
this elder and his wife had recently shunned me at the grocery store.
Do they really have 'stakeouts' like this?? I remember just after I woke up, and meetings were hit and miss for me, and my husband was working across the state, and we were preparing to move, I got called into the backroom. I was told that 'someone' had informed the elders that a man was seen going into my house after midnight one evening, and that he was there for more than an hour, and then asked if I had anything to say about it.
I just started laughing... That 'man' was my cousin Jim, who lived two doors over from me, and had come by after he'd got off work, to see what he could do to help me with a half plugged toilet!! I was told that the situation didn't 'look' good having him at the house that late at night. Oh brother! I asked WHO it wouldn't look good too, as all of our neighbors knew we were cousins and were use to seeing us at each others house all the time!
The matter was dropped. But I did wonder who would have reported that to the elders?? Who also would have known how long he was inside my house? Now I wonder if I could I have been the victim of a 'stakeout'?
Does the 'wedding chapel' picture mean that you two went inside and got hitched?
grandparents will get legal right to see grandchildren after divorce battlesfor the first time, separating parents will be expected to ensure grandparents continue to have a role in the lives of their children after they split up.. parenting agreements will be drawn up that explicitly set out contact arrangements for grandparents.
these can then be used as evidence in court if a mother or father goes back on the deal.. the recommendation is part of a sweeping review of the family justice regime commissioned by the government and led by david norgrove, a former civil servant.. the government is likely to accept the recommendations after nick clegg, the deputy prime minister, said last year that it was crazy that millions of grandparents lost contact after separation and divorce.
he said that they played a vital role if relationships broke down.. in 2009, 113,949 divorces were registered in england and wales.
I see your point Black Sheep, for those involved in mind control. But I also see it from the other side. When my son and his ex split, (a state away) my husband and I never really got to have any contact with our Grandson and Granddaughter, who were quite young. I continued to do the Grandma thing-- I sent birthday presents, Christmas presents, Easter baskets, Halloween candy, while wondering the entire time if the kids actually received them. Phone numbers never worked for them, and in 9 years time, I never even received any pictures of them. Totally heart breaking! We could have fought for rights I suppose, but feared that would make things more difficult in the long run for our son. We just hoped that some day things would turn around.
Fast forward to this last summer, the kids are now 10 and 11. Their worthless Mother was arrested for a dealing drugs. The state took the kids away from her. They told state workers that they had Grandparents in Nevada who sent them things. :) (they did get them) Their state tracked us down, and after all the paperwork etc was done, we now have custody of them! It was difficult in the begining, after all, they didn't know us, and we didn't know them. But there was an unspoken bond between us as we were family.
Now the shoe is on the other foot. However, unlike her, I allow her to be in contact with them. I don't trash their Mother in front of them either, I think they see it for themselves anyway! For the first time in their lives, they have a good stable life. After the last visit she had with them, the 11 year old asked me if I thought they would ever live with their Mom again. I told her I didn't know the answer to that question, and asked her what she thought. After a minute, she said that she loved her Mom, but that she wanted to stay here and live with me and Grandpa! :)
as you may have heard if you attended recently, social networking is of the devil and many have been 'lead astray' by website supposedly set up for jw.
whatever, you heard it before about rock, hard rock, hip hop, rap, gangsta rap, tv, werewolves .... anyway you may have heard of the recent elder school where basically there were the proverbial tongue lashings about not having social networking sites.
here is the skinny on recent developments:.
As if a pedophile would actually admit it and answer the question yes?? I don't doubt that he would probably still be appointed!
ok i listened in on the phone last night to the co's talk after the book study.
i am truly starting to realize that otwo is right and it is just making me more depressed and mad.
but my husband still goes and it is helpful to be able to bring things up with him.. so i was half listening when he starts to go on about where the money goes that we put into the world wide work box at the back of the hall.. i started to tune in more and he was going on and on about how the ones in the full time service do not have any money and how what we give is what keeps them going and how we need to give.
Flipper Yes, that talk forever changed my relationship with the congo. I could feel the dagger's hitting me in the back as I sat there slunking down in my seat! That CO was Reno- I can't remember his first name? That was in So. Oregon around '91 or '92. I remember that he certainly wasn't known for his 'tactfulness'. I think he just helped me move along in my exit at a little faster pace. So glad that I got out!! That we all did!
ok i listened in on the phone last night to the co's talk after the book study.
i am truly starting to realize that otwo is right and it is just making me more depressed and mad.
but my husband still goes and it is helpful to be able to bring things up with him.. so i was half listening when he starts to go on about where the money goes that we put into the world wide work box at the back of the hall.. i started to tune in more and he was going on and on about how the ones in the full time service do not have any money and how what we give is what keeps them going and how we need to give.
LITS... I have been on the other end of that talk!! After pioneering for 3 years (and coming to the realization that it was all a lie) we were having the CO for a visit. He asked me one day in service how I was holding up, as he thought I seemed 'off'. Not ready to tell him what I really was thinking, I blamed my 'depression' on the congo. I complained that weekends were really the only time I had any support, and it was becoming a financial burden to me. I did admit that I was thinking of quitting. Which that was all true...
Our special needs talk was ALL on supporting me!! He lambasted every one for not going out during the week, for not ever filling my gas tank etc... Told them how their only pioneer was going to quit because of them! He had one of the elders set up a weekly schedule and from the platform, had people pledge to 'work with me' on certain days of the week! OMG!! I wanted to crawl in a hole and die!! I was so embarrassed!!!
I did make about 100 bucks that night though! Quit pioneering 3 months later.
Just before the big change of stop selling the magazines and offer for a donation only... We knew there was something big coming out and were waiting for the announcement. I was in a car group with an elder, his wife and another, and we were talking about what this big deal coming could possibly be?? I made the statement something to the effect, that with all the new laws that had just passed regarding taxes and churchs etc, that I thought it might have something to do with our selling the literature??
The elder decided he and I would take the next door together. Since I had 'guessed' what it was, he couldn't wait to give me all the details!! He wasn't even my husband, so I'm sure his wife already knew!!
picture the situation:.
a jw sister, let's call her marjorie, has a non jw father who died.
she arranges for an elder to take the funeral at a crematorium and marjorie's non-jw husband pays for a reception at a pub afterwards.. marjorie has a disassociated son.
I think it comes down to the indivual's involved. Not that it's the same situation, but this last year I lost my Mother, who had walked away and never looked back. Then there was myself and my family, who walked away a few years later. At her funeral, her brother, who has been in for 60 plus years and also claims to be of 'the annointed', not only attended the funeral, but also the gathering afterwards. He was very caring and helpful during that time, not once did I hear JW's mentioned.
